Good morning and welcome to the new Deep Pockets podcast. I’m your host, Brian Abercrombie, and with me, as always, is my co-host, Sam Sanchez.

The salsa to your chips.

The bandit to my snowman. If you remember that Smokey and the Bandit reference, got a long way to go and a short time to get there.

Yes. Great movie. Way before it’s time. Still love that car.

Okay, Sam, so what are we talking about today? Let’s how do you how do you feel about death?

You know, hope to avoid it as long as possible.

Yeah, me too. Me, too. I definitely think it’s something that people need to think about, though, and I think that’s what we’re talking about today. We got to talk about death.

Yeah. You know, I mean, and it’s something that, you know, one of the subjects I think are topics that people probably like to speak about least.

Sure.

It’s something that you should probably want to bring up with your, you know, family attorney or if you don’t have one, reach out and get one to talk about it, regardless of your age or size of your estate. I mean, we’ve talked a little bit about it in the past, but it’s definitely something I think it’s worth spending some time on. I’ve noticed, you know, recently, I guess maybe it’s more so that I’ve hit like middle age as opposed to like, you know, give a lot of parents and friends, friends, parents dying, you know.

You know, my father passed away in 2019, so we had a whole situation with his estate and selling a house that we had to deal with. So, I mean I think that’s something we’ve got to talk about. We’ve got to talk about people’s estate plan. We’ve got to talk about, you know, what you do in that situation. And, you know, how young do you have to be to do a will? I mean, people in their 20s aren’t thinking about that. But then you got you got people passing away, you know, unexpectedly in their 20s, whether it’s a car accident or or whatever. Sure. Um, you know, people need to start thinking about this stuff. And unfortunately, it’s the, it’s the thing that nobody wants to talk about. And because they think it brings, what, bad luck. Um, but it’s the thing you really need to, you really need to talk about it because my word of caution to every client that comes through the door is, look, the will is not for you. It’s for the will and the and the estate plan. That’s not necessarily for you. It’s for who you leave behind because it creates so many issues. If you if you don’t have that stuff. Oh, my gosh. You know, beyond what people even comprehend, because obviously there’s the legality of it, but there’s just the emotional side of it as well that I think we’ll address as you know, as we talk through this.

But, you know, family members who are left behind trying to make heads or tails of what you would have wanted to have happen to your stuff or who’s going to pay the bills or how is it going to be addressed. You know, you leave that to people who are mourning, you know, having the toughest time, you know, in their lives, having to deal with your crap. Right. You have to you they’re mourning. They’re trying to get over the loss, but they’re also oh, I’m having to deal with who pays his electric bill and I’m having to deal with, you know, who sells this house or who gets the house or, you know, who gets the, you know, the China or whatever it is. I mean, um, it can create a lot of problems. And there’s been families that have broken apart as a result of, of someone’s death. And, um, you know, families don’t get put back together easily. When that kind of stuff happens, people get really, really, really sideways over over death. If they don’t think that the, the deceased person’s memory is being respected properly. I mean, it gets it gets pretty ugly. I would agree 100%. And I mean, I think you don’t have to look far to get good examples of, you know, situations to where, you know, individuals, you know, maybe they plan for it.

Well, maybe they didn’t. But, you know, it’s definitely something that needs to be dealt with. So let’s start with celebrities, brother. Why don’t we talk a little bit about celebrity celebrity deaths? Well, there has been there has been quite a number of them. But, you know, we’ll talk old and young so we can kind of use these use these celebrities as examples. Let’s talk first about well, the easier one would be probably a younger one, like maybe like a Nick Carter or a Jensen Panettiere, which is Hayden Panettiere’s brother. Those are young men that passed away recently. Um, so let’s talk about so you’re so you’re a 20 something year old guy and you’ve got maybe a little stuff, you know, saved up. Maybe you bought a house, maybe you have some kids. Um, why is an estate plan important for you? Well, you know, the big part of it is most most people, you know, I call them kids, but they’re not, you know, young adults. They started that life. Most people are starting to get life insurance policies. And, you know, they’re starting to build assets. They’re starting to start retirement. And so when you look at that, you think, well, I’m at the infancy of that, But that is all the kinds of things that a will and estate plan can really address for an individual. So you’re helping to kind of determine what do I want to have done with my property? But along with that, along with that, it’s really just as important, if not more important is what does your family do? You know, should it be, you know, a truly tragic death? Let’s say it is a car accident, You know, and it’s not just you, it’s you and your spouse who passed away and you have young, young children.

So your will can really determine kind of what transpires with everything that happens. How are your children taking care of? Where do they go? What happens to your property, your debts? You know, what passes outside of the will. You know, there’s just a tremendous amount of things that can be structured to help individuals who are going to survive you and how they deal with the aftermath. Right. And you got intestate. If you don’t have a will, you have intact intestate succession laws. And they’re different in various states. So you may end up sending your property to somebody, you know, in a strange sister or somebody or brother that you don’t intend to send your property to. But since they’re related to you by blood, they get it. Yeah. So, you know, it’s your opportunity to say where you want things to go and or and even just even simpler, it allows you to put in, into place, you know, things that will allow say, hey, I want to be cremated as opposed to buried or, you know, I want this type of service or I want, you know, I don’t want any flowers, but I want donations to a certain charity allows you to put those kinds of plans in place so that, you know, your family knows how to honor you or or whoever knows how to honor you.

Absolutely. I mean, you know, you can go as far as like, you know, what happens to your body. You know, do you are you a person who says, hey, you know what, I want to be in a donor. I want to, you know, you know, donate my body to science so that, you know, whatever transpired, maybe there’s some benefit that’s drawn from that. You know, it’s, you know, personal property. You know, you think, hey, you know what? This I’ve saved this for my son. You know, it’s my my favorite sig. And I’m going to hand it down to him so that, you know, when he’s a young man, he’ll have something or it’s, you know, the. The weapons that I inherited from my grandfather or it’s my dad’s saddle or whatever it may be. You don’t want to pass it to my daughter. These are my dad. It was from my dad. It was a Navy officer sword. He had he got a sword when he was commissioned as an officer in 1960, 66, I believe. And you know, that’s going to get passed down through the family. It’s beautiful. It’s a beautiful sword. And it’s you know, he used it when he was in the Navy, you know, for, you know, ceremonial things.

But, you know, it was still important to him. Right. And, you know, Brian, think about it in this context. If you’re you know, you’re going through this process, your father passes away. It was his intention. He’d had many conversations with you about, hey, I want this to go to you and then your son keep it in, you know, the male side of the family, whatever it may be, his last wishes, but he didn’t ever execute a will. So then guess what? You’re in another town, you’re in another city, you’re in another state, and your father passes away. You go and hey, you know, you have a sibling, a relative come in and say, hey, this is the coolest thing. I’m going to take it. You’re like, No, I mean, that that’s that should be mine, Really? Because it doesn’t say anywhere that it should be yours, right? You know, and, you know, it just can create tremendous amounts of angst between families when there’s no need for it. Right. You know, this is an opportunity for anyone, whether you’re young, middle aged or older, to be able to sit down and say, you know, should something happen to me, this is how I want it to go so that nobody has any questions, nobody has to think about it. They can, you know, mourn me or have a wake for me, but it’s not going to be about this kind of crap that they’re going to get sideways.

It’s just not going to happen that way. Well, let’s talk let’s talk specifically in Texas about what you need. I mean, the basics of what you need in Texas. I mean, you can have trusts and things like that. Those those help with with property and things like that. Those are definitely vehicles that you can use for more complex estate planning. But the basics, basic will decides where you want your stuff to go, who you want to be, the executor of your estate. Let’s talk about the stuff before you die. I mean, you need powers of attorney for health care, for financial decision. Let’s say you’re in a coma. You can’t make any decisions for yourself. But decisions need to be made. Your gas bill and your electric bill need to be paid and your house payment needs to be paid. You need to probably have somebody designated to take care of those things because the you know, in the event that you are unable to do so, it’s very, very difficult to go to court and get a guardianship taken out quickly where you can get that stuff taken care of. Now it can be done. It’s costly and it takes and it and it’s sometimes not fast. But if you have this power of attorney in place, you know, then I’m talking about a financial. It’s a very easy decision to make. And if you’re and if you need someone to make your health care decisions for you in the event that you’re unable to, obviously make sure somebody you trust.

But, you know, let’s say you’re in a coma and you develop some sort of, you know, infection or something like that, somebody might need to make the decision to, you know, have that infection treated or whatever, some some other kind of thing that needs to be. And then, of course, the end of life decisions. Do they pull the plug or not? I mean, that’s always the big question. Who decides who pulls the plug? Well, you know, a directive to physicians will tell you, you know, you can decide that yourself. You know, you don’t have to have leave it up to a spouse or a spouse to decide that, you know, that’s sometimes an agonizing decision for a spouse to have to make. And do I pull the plug on him or not? Um, you know, everyone jokes about it, but yeah, do I keep him on a ventilator? I mean, these are things that, you know, COVID really brought to the forefront for a lot of families, you know? But before that, you know, it’s always been in existence. And it can be simple things even think of like Bruce Willis as an example. You know, this is somebody who was healthy, still acting. You know, somebody who, you know, you think is pretty much invincible. This is, you know, what was what was his name on Die Hard? John McClane.

John McClane. You know, he’s invincible. The guy. Can you shoot him 100 times? He doesn’t die. But, you know, hey, you develop something that inhibits his ability to communicate, right? He’s now developed, you know, you know, Alzheimer’s, you know, the onset of Alzheimer’s. So, you know, these are things where you start to lack the capacity to be able to make decisions for yourself. Obviously, he’s got an extremely large estate, I mean, as you would imagine. But even if he didn’t, you know, you can’t communicate when you’ve lost the ability to make those types of determinations for you if you don’t have that type of plan in place. Think about the trauma that you’re inflicting on your family, on individuals who love you. They have to come up with a plan and you may not agree with it. You may say, I don’t want that person. I don’t want my parents. And they’re super pushy, but they want to be in control. No, want it to be my spouse, you know, or these are the decisions. I don’t want to be sustained. I don’t want to, you know, be put on a feeding tube If I’m in a car accident and don’t want to be on a ventilator, I don’t want to be sustained that way and incur all these hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical expenses. Do you remember that? Do you remember the Terri Schiavo case? Can you know, was it 2005? I don’t remember 2006.

I mean, that was the termination where, you know, they had I guess there was a disagreement over the family. The family and the husband had a disagreement over whether to keep her on, you know, this life support that she was on, whether she was ever going to potentially recover or not recover. And that was a horribly traumatic mean it went all the way to the governor of the state of Florida. And then it went to the I went to it went into appeals court. I don’t even know how high it went in the courts. But that end of life decision making on, you know, Terri Schiavo should should be a wake up call to people that, you know, you can make those decisions for yourself and say, okay, here’s my directive to physicians. I’m telling you, my doctor, that if I’m in this state, this is what you do with me. And that way your parents are your parents, your spouse, your kids are spared that decision making and an agonizing decision that they spend the rest of their lives wondering, was I wrong to pull the plug? Was it right to pull the plug? You know, you don’t have to you don’t have to burden them with that. Right. And I’ll give you an example. It’s a sad example, but it’s for young people out there. You know, this college student, the 21, 20 year old, I think he was fraternity guy, you know, went out, you know, happened to party just a little too hard, ends up getting so inebriated, falls down instantly.

You know, he’s brain dead by the time he gets to the hospital. But he’s alive, you know, And so he’s still strong. Yeah. Yeah. But there’s no physician’s directive. So now his parents come in and they’re like, Hey, you know what? We’re making that decision. Is it? His decision is what he would have wanted. Who knows? He never had that to be able to help them in that situation. Parents end up getting divorced over this because mom wants one thing. Dad’s like, absolutely. He wouldn’t want to live this way. And so these are the kinds of situations that you can help your family, help your loved ones in the most, you know, these critical crisis times that the last thing they want to be thinking about is, well, what, you know, what were his wishes? What would he have wanted? Because it’s you know, everybody’s got a different perspective on that. And so the best way to be able to put that to bed is to have these kinds of documents. And it’s not like it’s a, you know, written in stone tablet. It’s a living, breathing document. It’s something. Yeah. So you have something when you’re not married. Then when you get married, you look at it again and say, Hey, you know what? Now I want to change it. Now it’s not, you know, this person.

I want to make that determination or have that power of attorney for me, you know, or these are these have accumulated more wealth and they’re not got a great job. You know, whatever these four documents that we’re talking. About. They’re not terribly expensive to have an attorney draft up. I mean, 1500 bucks, 2000 bucks maybe at the most. A thousand bucks sometimes, depending on what it is. I mean, it can be very you know, that’s not expensive in the in the realm of legal costs. And that’s something that gives a lot of peace of mind to a lot of people. And it can it can save your family a lot of expense, a lot of expense down the road. Five times, five, ten times that amount of money down the road. Easy, easy. When you look at probating a will versus intestacy in Texas, it’s probably, I would say conservatively five times more expensive to do something via intestate succession without a will than it is if you’ve got a will. So let’s talk about an estate that’s, you know, near and dear to a lot of people’s hearts. But just just a recent, you know, obviously it was an unexpected death. It was the death of Lisa Marie Presley, who was basically the sole heir of Elvis’s estate, which obviously was was pretty good size. I mean, I know there’s been there were some things over the years, you know, that happened to Elvis with the colonel Parker and all that kind of stuff.

I saw the movie, uh, but great movie, by the way. That kid can act. Yeah, he sure can. But the point. The point being that he did have a rather large estate when he passed away the house, he had, you know, the obviously the famous mansion, you know, you know, obviously Priscilla was they were divorced. And and I think everything was left to Lisa Marie as his sole heir. But I think Priscilla managed it for a while. And and now Lisa Marie, who was controlling all of those assets, she’s passed away. And her will, I think, left her daughter in charge of the estate. But I think Priscilla was trying to invalidate that. Will, um. You know, and I’m sure she has her reasons. Um, so that’s leading into a huge, you know, going to be a huge fight over the, over the, the validity of the will. Um, so I mean, and I’ve obviously, I’ve been involved in a number of cases where there have been will contests over the years where you know. People are unclear about the will. People are unclear about the direction that they wanted it to go. And one time I had a case with her two wills dated just a few months apart. One was one side of the family got everything on that will and the other one side of the family got got that on the other side. So will contests can happen.

They are. They are. They can be avoided too. I think in the sense that you make it absolutely clear that this is what I want to do. You’re not under any incapacitation, you know, or any kind of your sound mind when you do the will. I think you can make it absolutely clear and people in your family may not be happy about it, but, you know, your will is your will. Where you leave your stuff is where you leave your stuff. And, you know, if Lisa Marie wants to leave it to her daughter, I think that’s that’s her business. Honestly, at this point now, I don’t know. I would agree. And what the reasoning is, is the I mean, she was on her what on her on she was at home and she was 54 years old and she had been at the Emmys or the Oscars or some award show before. Yeah, two nights before. And just. That’s it. Yeah. I mean, you know, the thing about Wills and what makes them complex is you’re right, it’s not the actual document. A lot of times what makes Wills complex is the execution of those documents and what people need to understand, you know, there’s all kinds of, you know, companies out there now that want to sell you dirt cheap forms. They want to tell you, oh, you can do it yourself, you know, and some people may be able to do that. But I will be honest with you, you should never do that without consulting an attorney.

And here’s why. Because the the actual execution of these documents are actually fairly complicated. And these legal drafts, when you look at something you’ve never seen before, you have no understanding or frame of reference of the law. You have no idea what you’re actually signing and putting into place. And that can cause you’re putting into place. Yeah. And why you’re putting it into place and what some of those legal terms mean, share and share alike. What does that mean? You know, what does you know, what is a joint and several you know, ownership mean you know that kind of thing. Those kinds of things, all those legal terms have meaning. And yes, you can get those from legalzoom or wherever. But yeah, you’re right. You’re not going to have the expertise of an attorney looking at those things and saying, okay, do you understand that that means that, you know, share and share alike means everybody gets everything and the executor, the executor to figure out since you can’t cut a couch in half, the executor is going to have to decide who gets that couch and what the value of that couch is and then give the other person something of equal value. So you get the set of steak knives and you get the couch, right? I mean, those are the kinds of those are the kinds of decisions that the executor is going to have to make.

And, you know, a lot of people don’t understand those kind of more nuanced legal terms. And I would also tell you that generic legal forms are generic legal forms. That means they. We try to make them as applicable as possible to all across the board, but they may not be applicable in Texas or whatever state you’re living in. They may be you may have to have something different. So it’s worth talking to a legal it’s worth an hour of your time for a lawyer to look at that stuff and say, Yeah, this is bad or yeah, this is good because a bad, a poorly drafted will can lead to just as many expensive problems down the road as a as a not having a will. Yeah, 100%. And you know think on top of that, when you think of Lisa Marie Presley and her final wishes, you know, the problem that you run into a lot of times and don’t know the age of her daughter, I think her daughter is like in her late 20s, early 30s. Um, but, you know, so maybe, you know, you know, she’s a child star, you know, or the the child of a star and maybe she’s a train wreck. Maybe that’s why her grandma is trying to say, you know what? She shouldn’t be in control of millions and millions of dollars of assets. Hundred million dollars potentially. Yeah. So, okay, so maybe maybe that’s true.

Or maybe it’s the book of music, Elvis’s book of music. Who knows what what the reasoning is behind that. But but for the will that Lisa Marie Presley had prepared, no one would know. And think of the fact that that could start. I think it technically is a document that she was trustee of the trust. And I think I think it was a document that changed the um head of the trust after her her passing. So she changed it from Priscilla Presley grandma to to her daughter. And apparently there was nobody knew about it. Um, which is creating a problem and I’m assuming there’s some, some sort of rub between Priscilla and the and the grandson or granddaughter. Um, and there’s a, you know, there’s some questions about questionable signatures and how the, how the document was delivered. And that’s what you’re talking about when you execute a will with formalities, you have witnesses and notaries and stuff like that. That way, if it’s ever contested, the two witnesses can come forward and the notary can come forward and say, Yeah, I’ve watched this person sign this document and I saw this person sign this document, and they were of sound mind and they knew what they were doing and they knew what their property consisted of and they did it. And and it’s simple. It’s and it’s and it’s wrapped up. Otherwise you start getting into, you know, who did what, how they were feeling, what they were thinking.

Were they on drugs? Were they, you know, were they out of their mind? Were they, you know, whatever, you know, all these different speculations and fraud and and all this stuff that you have to go to court over. And that can be very, very expensive. And will contests, you know, for a large estate can cost $100,000. Easy, easy. I mean I can tell you that we have and not only that, but like individuals where you you add complexity to things that you think are really simple is, let’s say in your will, you really want to think through what you’re doing. Because let’s say you go in and you say, Hey, I want a portion of my estate to go to a charity, okay? Which is great, very altruistic. But what you need to understand is that creates this legal entity which is out there, which potentially could even be the state of Texas. Right. Because you’re donating it to like, let’s say, national parks or state parks instantly. Another group, another faculty of people with their own wants, wishes and desires and interests are now a party to this process, right? So when you set something like that up, you’ve instantly over complicated it, even though in your mind when you were executing it, oh, give it to the Humane Society or whatever, and then all of a sudden you got Humane Society lawyers all over your your heirs, you know, trying to we want to make sure that this is sold at the highest value so that we can maximize the amount of the donation the other family is like.

And the family’s just like, hey, just want to get through this. We want to pay some bills and be done. They’re like, No, we need appraisers. We need, you know, all these kinds of things that you never anticipated when you were thinking through this. But if you talk to a lawyer, a lawyer would tell you, hey, look, yeah, we can do that. But understand the long term implications of that type of a decision. And you can still do and the lawyer can say, look, you’re better off donating $10,000 of your estate to the Humane Society if you want to or whatever, whatever charitable organization. It’s nothing wrong with the Humane Society whatsoever. But, you know, there’s nothing wrong with a charitable organization. But mean maybe it’s much, much better to do a specific gift like, oh, this is the gift of $10,000 or leave it up to the executor to do or then saying that, you know, 25%. But what is that? Right. Well, we want to get in and appraise the house. We want to get in and look at all these these accounts that you had. We want to look at the cars. How would you have to like to sell your car and give 25% of it to the Humane Society? Jewelry. Jewelry. You can’t get anything. We want that appraised.

Exactly. So it’s it’s it’s it’s something like, like you said, it’s something that you you need to get a legal professional and have them review it. So one lastly, I would tell you, in Texas specifically, not all states have this, but so people oftentimes will call and ask us about holographic wills. And what that means is that it’s just a will that’s in your own handwriting, in its entirety in Texas has to be everything signed, signed, dated and dated and have testamentary intent. Correct. So, you know, where people want to bypass getting a will from an attorney, they’re like, well, I’ll just write out, you know, like, hey, this is going to go to whoever and here’s my signature. How many contests have you and I handled, brother, where somebody tried to do that and nobody buys it? It’s not dated. That’s not their signature. That’s the wife’s signature. There’s no testamentary intent here. Yeah, it’s on the back of that note. They didn’t intend that to be a will. There’s no witnesses. There’s nobody around that When he signed it, you know, there’s all kinds of all kinds of problems mean that. And then you’ve got to bring witnesses in. It’s not you know, when you do a will in Texas, you can get a self-proving affidavit where the witnesses don’t have to come down, where just the executor has to go to court and prove it up. You it’s something very simple and it’s a very simple process versus calling in a bunch of witnesses, handwriting experts, whatever else you would have to do to to to to prove this will because people see money there and they start fighting.

Right. And even not even money, let’s say you’ve got a really small estate, but you’ve got children, right? So like, if you think about like what your assets are, what an inheritance it may be, you know, is, you know, when we talk about and we’re not really touching on trust today, but you know, you can have pour over insurance policies that create a trust for the benefit of, you know, your family. You know, when we talk about an estate plan, sometimes it’s just these documents that we’re talking about, which is a will, a power of attorney, a medical power of attorney, a directive to physicians in Texas, at least these are the kinds of things that you absolutely bare minimum need. But that’s like the starting point. That’s like the building block upon which you want to kind of grow as you grow as your basic. That’s the basic insurance policy that gets you that it gets you through if worse comes to worse. But yeah, I mean, that that leads me to a good a good point. I mean, you brought up trust. Like what if you have minor children you don’t want you don’t want a 16 year old kid getting, you know, $1 million or whatever. You know, you might want to set up a minor trust so that you can direct where that money goes and when they get it.

The other thing would be is if you’re divorced, if you have a mixed family, you know, you don’t necessarily want, you know, the ex wife getting, you know, your minor child’s money. So and that could happen so they could get at least access to it. So you really would want to you really would want to set up a trust so that you have somebody as trustee that can that can divvy out the money as the child needs it. Right. Because you want the ex-wife coming there and saying, oh, I didn’t get enough during the divorce. So here, let me here’s my hand. I need more bonbons and pedicures, you know, which is a terrible thing to say, but I’m just you know what I’m saying? The other piece of it, though, is, you know, when we talk about these types of plans, you know, it really becomes, you know, your thought process. And I think that’s what I would encourage people as they’re listening to this and they’re contemplating, do I need one of these you know, I don’t want to talk about my death is two things. One. Really sit down and think about when you pass, how you want life to go on after you for those left behind. Yes, for those left behind. And the second part of that is, if once you make that determination, you know, why wouldn’t you take steps to be able to ensure that you facilitate that you facilitate that process, you make it easier for them.

You know, life is life is hard and it’s short. And if you can make it easier for the people that you love, then I would just say there’s no reason not to do it. You know, you can do a short consult with an attorney who does probate and estate planning. They can give you some great information. You know, it’s not something that takes a long period of time typically to get those kinds of things together and then you can put it away. The last piece of that I would tell you is I really encourage clients when they do these kinds of things is communicate to your family. The one mistake that I see most people make post creating a plan is they don’t tell anybody, right? So nobody gets a copy of the will. Nobody knows what their intentions are. They have to wait for somebody to pass. And then as they’re digging through paperwork, somebody shows up and says, Oh, hey, I found a will. And everybody else is like, We didn’t know they had a will. And that’s what starts the problem. So I would tell you, communicate that. And then as you’re communicating it, just make sure that you’re staying in touch with the attorneys who prepare these for you so they can update them.

Because to your point, Brian, you get divorced. Guess what? You gave everything to your spouse or your, you know, your wife at the time and now you’re divorced or your husband at the time. And hey, you know, there’s other people in your life and you sure as hell don’t want it to go to them. But, you know, your will still says that. Well, guess what? That basically means Nobody knows what the hell happened, because most of the times divorce is going to vitiate those types of designations. Right? So if you have, then where the hell does it go? It invalidates the whole will. So if you gave everything to your spouse and then she’s invalidated, then unless you have a backup beneficiary in there. Yeah. You’ve remarried. Yeah. You’ve got other additional children, you know, I mean, these are the kinds of things that people just, you know, life happens to them. And to your point, the people, the examples that were coming up with Lisa Marie Presley, you think she went home two days later and thought she was going to die? No. Do you think that Bruce Willis thought, hey, you know what, I’m going to develop this degenerative disease where I’m not going to be able to communicate and I’m going to have, you know, early onset of extreme, you know, Alzheimer’s. No. Do you think people, like, plan to get in car accidents and die? No. And so these are the kinds and he’s driving down the road just passing away.

That’s a great example. Exactly. You know, she’s driving home, gets, you know, sideways in a car and boom. So these are the kinds of things that can happen at any point in time, whether you’re young, whether you’re, you know, old, whether you’re in the prime of your life. You know, just don’t let these types of things be something that’s cumbersome to your family later on. And it’s not hard to it’s not hard to do. It’s it’s it’s you can get it done. And, you know, we can do it in two and one, even two meetings, you know, one for the, you know, one for the preparation of the documents and one for the execution of the documents. You know, it can be something that’s done very, very quickly, very quickly in some instances, and very, you know, and very fast. So very fast, very inefficient, very efficient, I guess, is the better word to say. But there’s no reason not to do it. If you own anything, you need to do it. And if you have kids, you need to do it. It’s it’s only going to benefit you own anything. Oh, anything. Have children. You need one? Yeah. Absolutely. So. All right, man. So the way they get their wills done is they call us at or they look they look at our website w-w-w dot law office.com. You can reach out to Sam or me. My direct line is (281) 374-4741.

You can call me and I’m in the Houston The Woodlands area. We can do pretty much anywhere in Texas. Sam, you’re in Fort Worth? Yeah, the Dallas Fort Worth area. It’s (469) 844-7181 at the office. And you can just call. Set up an appointment, and we’ll get you taken care of. Yeah, we’ll have a chat. We’ll, you know, like I said, we can do, you know, basic will packages. We can, we can. If you have a relative that’s passed away, we can probate help you with the probate process. There’s all kinds of things that we can do to to help you out and make make things a little bit easier and give you a little bit more security in that. So that’s I guess that’s the biggest thing, is you want security for yourself and your family. And this is a simple way to kind of get that done. And it’s. It’s more valuable than you know. So you need help if you’re if you’re going through it in any way, any shape, form or fashion, you’re going to need help to get it done. And then afterwards, you’re going to need help to conclude it. So. Well. All right. Well, thanks for the time today, Sam. We are going to launch hugely here in the next couple of weeks when our new Deep Pockets podcast. But for today, we needed to talk a little bit of estate planning. So thanks for the time and we’ll talk very, very, very soon. Always, brother.

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