Good morning and welcome to the Deep Pockets podcast, Our newly rebranded Deep Pockets podcast. With me, as always, is Mr. Samuel Sanchez. Sam, how are you doing?

Doing well, sir. Doing well. The cookies to your cream, my friend. Cookies to your cream.

Okay, so we got a little scatter shooting today. Um, I think we can talk about a couple of different topics. Like one, we’ll talk family one, we’ll talk guns, family and guns. Seems to be one that’s like a Texas. That’s a family reunion at my place, man. So, Sam, did you come down here to Houston to see the big Taylor Swift concert they had over the weekend? You know, I mean, try to get tickets, but that was just that was out priced, man. You know, luckily, I’ve seen that before. I have a daughter. So, you know, when she was in her teens and Taylor was, you know, not quite as big as she is right now, we did get to see Taylor. She’s good in concert. I’m sure it’s changed somewhat before. Did not go to this one. Apparently everyone else in Houston did two, three shows or and there was some it was some late some late arrivals at the at my daughter’s school house yesterday morning. So I gotta tell you, my daughter draws these pictures and she’s only seven, so that gives you a little context. So she brings these pictures home. So she brings this picture home that says, Love you, dad.

And this one that says, I love you, mom. That’s a picture of her with mom and her with dad. So on top of the pictures, she she, um. She drew our ages, what she thought our ages were and so on. Mom’s, it’s significantly younger than my wife is and, you know, has cwin7. And, um, the other child, the. The mom’s significantly younger than she actually is. And then it has, you know, dad 60 and Quinn seven. So I’m 60. Apparently she’s, she’s overcalculated 13 years older than I actually am. So apparently am looking old these days. So, you know, it’s always dads. We always get the punch in the gut, man. It’s always, you know, you’re like, well, thanks, daughter, I love so much, but okay, that was good stuff. Good stuff. Was happy at least to get some shout outs. Usually it’s just shout outs to mom. So we got a we got a picture. Oh, my gosh. You know, that takes me. That’s a funny story because, you know, I always think of like the Father’s Day, Mother’s Day scenario. And I know we’re going to talk about some family stuff later on, but it’s always like Mother’s Day, You know, it’s like this huge deal and everybody goes out and buys everything. Flowers, cards, fricking everybody goes to dinner and Father’s Day, you get like a freaking yard tool, right? You’re like, Hey, we know you really well.

Here’s a new shovel to go dig up that hole that we’ve been wanting for a while. Okay, thanks. So, yeah, that’s true. That’s true. Okay, so let’s start out. So I read an article not too long ago about Visa and MasterCard putting codes into the into their. Right into their platform or whatever, however they track purchases so that they could track purchases at gun shops, which leads to a wider discussion of, you know, should Visa and MasterCard be tracking what you purchase? Where does that lead? Um, they’ve since paused the um, the decision to start categorizing categorizing gun purchases. Um, but should Visa and MasterCard start categorizing what what your what you’re buying on the Visa card or what you’re buying on a MasterCard because you know what comes after categorizing. They they declined anything they don’t want you to purchase. Yeah So. Should you have the freedom to purchase without being tracked? Well, I mean, you know, I think those days are past us, unfortunately. I think absolutely, you know, the general consensus, you and I are both proponents of freedom, obviously individual and personal liberty. And I think one of those things is being able to purchase what you want when you want, if you have the availability, so long as it isn’t, you know, freaking nuclear materials or something. Sure. Something that’s, you know, dangerous, dangerous, inherently dangerous. Guns are dangerous. The problem is, is that, you know what, We’re we’re having obviously a really rough year with mass shooting.

I think that gun control has been at the forefront of a lot of political campaigns on both sides. And it’s just become a very prolific issue that it’s it’s impossible for retailers not to be involved, whether you’re a gun dealer, whether you’re a credit card company, those purchases are being tracked at every level. So if you think even beyond this, even if this was to say like, oh, MasterCard and Visa aren’t going to attract those purchases, if you think that the purchase isn’t being tracked, you’re just you’re delusional. Like everything is being tracked at this point. You know, in the digital age, we’re past the point of hell. They’re tracking what we look at. You know, if you think that they’re not tracking what we purchase, give me a break. I mean, they know what you look at, how long you look at it. You know, you can tell when a gun store I mean. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, they’re pinging you on all these things. So, you know, don’t don’t find it, you know, a little bit offensive that, you know, this is something that they feel they should do. And I agree with you that, you know, this is a slippery slope, in my opinion, to where you go and give somebody not only the authority to track it, but then potentially the authority to stop it, you know, which is a substantial problem, a big problem.

And it’s easy to get to it’s easy to get to, especially with regulations that they’re talking about. Because if we go to digital currency, I mean, then they’ll be able to stop purchases, right? If we have cash, I mean, it’s just going to you’re going to go to the gun store, you’re going to walk up to the counter, you’re going to put your Glock down or whatever you’re going to buy, and then you’re going to pull out your credit card and they’re going to swipe it and say, nope, declined. Then you’re going to get pissed off and you’re going to walk out the walk out the door of the gun store, go down to the bank, withdraw the cash, and then go back and buy the gun. So it’s not really necessarily stopping anything. And the majority of guns that are used in these, you know, involved in crime are illegally obtained. Whether that’s illegally purchased, whether that’s illegally stolen, whether that’s, you know, you know, whatever. I mean, the vast majority of guns used in crime are not legal guns anyway. So what are you who are you stopping? Legal purchasers. Yeah. And, you know, we do have a Second Amendment. We have a Second Amendment for a reason. And I just don’t think this is just another thing on the line of slippery slopes that. You know, it was just, you know, making things harder for people to obtain is not necessarily taking things away from people, is not making the world safer, in my opinion.

Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. And, you know, even if you wanted to take it to the extreme and say like, okay, well, this could, you know, let’s just put in the context of mass shooters, right? Like, you know, people are saying like, well, you know, their warning signs. So if these warning signs were we were able to track these warning signs for potential mass shooters or individuals who were going to use them for an illicit purpose, then great, we could stop that type of purchase. But the problem is, is that if you look at historically, it’s not like these people are buying them that day. You know, I’m saying these are people who are like getting access to weapons substantially earlier than the events that they’re planning and executing. So if you think that to your point, you know, stopping them at the point of purchase is going to prohibit them from accessing or obtaining a weapon, you’re you’re you’re you’re fooling yourself planned weeks or months in advance. There’s manifestos written. There’s, you know, planned out strategies and stuff like that. They’re not on a whim going and buying a gun at a gun store and then stopping at the school on the way home from the gun store. Yeah, they’re taking them from their parents. They’re taking them from their friends houses. They’re you know, they’re buying them on the street. They’re, you know, there’s just.

Yeah, yeah, we’re past that point. So I, I understand the newsworthiness of this because I do feel like it does have the potential to infringe on individual liberties for law abiding citizens. But, you know, the criminals, it’s not going to do anything. It’s just, you know, more fodder to kind of make it harder for regular, everyday, ordinary people to go get a gun. I mean, and think it’s a it’s an exercise of, you know, who do you want the diligence to be on? I mean, if you if you suspect your child has a, you know, a gun, he has a. Problem, a mental problem that could cause one of these. I mean, maybe it’s on you to to get some of these shootings are dealing with people that, you know, have had mental mental illness problems and should have been tracked. Somebody should have been paying attention. You know, if you have a of a child or a friend or somebody that’s just obtaining gun after gun after gun and then, you know, doing crazy things, that’s somebody you have to keep an eye on. Yeah. It’s trying to absolve people of personal responsibility or or responsibility to look after your neighbor, guess a little bit and say, put it on the onus of the credit card company or the credit card companies, you know. Yeah. And they’re pretty soon it’s a slippery slope to whatever they want to. Okay. They’ll start tracking ammunition next.

Okay. Then they’ll start tracking, you know, if you want to buy knives or whatever. Yeah. Hell, man, it could be books. Oh, you know what? That’s a banned book. So we don’t want you to be able to purchase that book. You know, I worked at a worked at a hardware store when I was 18 years old, and we had a, you know, the big rule, you couldn’t sell spray paint to, you know, kids because they were they were, you know, sniffing, huffing spray paint to get high. Did that stop any kids from getting spray paint to huff? No, it didn’t. Not at all. It didn’t stop them at all. They either come in and try to steal it or they would get somebody else to buy it for them or whatever. But they would you know, we had these restrictions in place to stop kids from from buying, you know, you know, sniffing paint to get high. But it didn’t do any good. So, I mean, if if this were the kind of policy that was going to work to be a deterrent, I mean, then, you know, the meth policies, we wouldn’t have methamphetamines. We wouldn’t have that problem because people wouldn’t be able to get those types of drugs to convert to meth. But guess what? Just because you have a policy that says keep it behind the counter and we’re going to track who buys those, doesn’t mean that they’ve stopped making them, you know, So like it just yeah, I agree with you.

I think it’s kind of one of those cool errands. You should have a level of privacy in your purchases. Visa and MasterCard, in my opinion, they take enough interest from us, you know, now. You really, really, really shouldn’t be drinking. What if you can legally, if you can legally purchase something, they shouldn’t be drinking it. Yeah. For 29% interest. I think you should be able to do whatever the hell you want to do. Freaking card. You know, it’s just like, right? I mean, are they trying to be a good world citizen? Will charge us less interest. Mean be a good world citizen. Give us a break so we can buy food. Right? Give us a kickback. Ransom. Cash kickback on the card would be great. You know, that’d be freaking awesome. How about we do that, right? Yeah. If you’re trying to be a good world citizen, help us. Help us survive. Yeah. Don’t nail us. You know, Nail us to the wall on interest and then track all of our purchases. I mean, it’s. I don’t know. It’s. It’s. It’s ridiculous. I mean, they. They’re able to track people very quickly. They’re finding out that the majority of the mass crimes everybody talks about the mass shootings as the big crime, but there’s more gun crime than than than just mass shootings. And the majority of those guns are obtained illegally. And, you know. I do think the gun the gun crime statistics are a little skewed given the fact that they include suicide in there as part of a gun crime.

Um, you know, and the statistics. So don’t think that’s typically that, you know, it’s not a fair necessarily a fair statistics but but like I said, I mean majority of the majority of the of the people that do these crimes are not going to get the gun in a legal manner. They’re going to get the gun illegally. They’re stealing it. They’re getting somebody else to buy it for them. Whatever. Yeah. Yeah, you’re absolutely right. All right. Well, think we killed that one. Let’s move on to the next topic. I don’t think we like that. That’s completely related to the to the topic of guns and guns and gun purchases, summer visitation. So that could be. That’s for sure. And summer visitation, because Texas April is a big month in Texas for, you know, if you’re going to designate summertime for the non-custodial parent, you have the they have the right to designate your time in April typically and designate your 30 days in the summer. And let’s talk about the summer visitation, because that is a massive rub for people because of that, that 30 days, that month long, 30 days in the summer, that the most that people get in under the standard possession order which the majority of people in Texas have the standard possession order. So the non-primary parent loses that kiddo for 30 days.

They get a weekend in there, but but basically 30 days. So let’s talk about that. Yeah. I mean, think the you know, the big piece of it is obviously this is governed by statute in the state of Texas for most individuals. Most people who go through a divorce and get an order have what’s called a standard possession schedule. That standard possession schedule encompasses in it a summer period of possession. And in that there’s two periods of designation. So as a primary parent, right, the the parent who has the majority of time, you’re usually going to give the other parent the opportunity to give you notice that says, Hey, I want my time in the summer because they’re getting a first, third and fifth weekend of every month and then typically 30 days in the summer under this statute, this this codified possession schedule that Texas has. So they have just a second. There’s also there’s a period for notice and a period for if you don’t give notice, correct? Correct. So if you give notice by April 1st. So the person who wants summer possession, who’s the non primary parent, they by April 1st are just supposed to tell you, hey, in seven day blocks, no smaller than seven day blocks and usually no shorter than two periods. I want these days in the summer they can send it to you in writing. You know, it depends on what your your decree says.

But typically it’s going to be in writing an email. Sometimes text messages will work, but sometimes they’re going to provide you this notice that says these are the time periods that I want in the summer. And so long as they don’t conflict, like let’s say you’re the father and it doesn’t affect your holiday schedule, which would include Father’s Day typically. Now, some possession schedules are very creative and they’ll include like holiday schedules as well beside that, like 4th of July or. But if it doesn’t encompass any of that, then as long as it doesn’t, you know, encompass infringe on or encroach on Father’s Day or Mother’s Day, they can pick their periods. There are two periods, at least seven days long during the summer for 30 days. Well, then by the 15th, the other parent, the parent who has the primary possession more time during the summers is not the weekend parent. Then they get to say, okay, well, you’ve picked your periods and if you didn’t pick them by April 1st, then you’re going to get a 30 day block July 1st to July 31st. That’s your summer period of possession. If you don’t submit notice in Texas by April 1st, well, then knowing that block of time, the other parent can say, I don’t want to miss my child for 30 days. I don’t want to not get to see them for that block of time. So then typically under the possession schedule, you’ll get the opportunity to select a weekend or two, depending on how it’s broken up.

If you’re over a hundred miles, it’s 42 days instead of 30 days. So depending on the length of that summer period of possession, whether it’s the default or whether you elected it in big blocks, the other parent will get to choose weekends in that time period to kind of break it up, right? So like it’s not giving somebody the opportunity to just say, hey, for a whole month, they’re going to disappear down a well and you’re not going to see or hear from them. And so these these two periods of notice, whether you give it or you don’t, what you get and what you don’t get are very important. And most parents who go through a divorce really don’t understand how that notice works. And that becomes a huge source of frustration for parents because what ends up happening is April 1st comes around really fast, right? It’s right after spring break, typically. And so if you haven’t got it on your calendar, you don’t plan it out. You didn’t, you know, really think about kind of what you’re looking for. Most people start planning summer vacations in May. You know, most people are sitting down going like, if it’s not big trips, they’re like, hey, you know, why don’t we take a couple of weeks in July? Well, if you didn’t submit it by April 1st. Then it’s got to be within your block of time.

Well, it just so happens that July is what July is like. The heaviest period to travel, most expensive time to travel in the summer, typically anywhere you go. And so it becomes this huge source of frustration. Yeah, exactly. It’s probably still expensive to go to Antarctica. Yeah, exactly. And so, you know, these are the things that really become sources of frustration between parents because then you want to reach and you call out the other parent and say, Hey, can you make an exception? Well, if you’re a great co-parents, right, if you’re adults and you use common sense, you’re like, sure, no big deal. But guess what? You probably hate that other person. You just went through a divorce. They don’t want to give you shit. You know, the last thing they want to do is concede anything to you. And so what do they tell you? They don’t give you the 30 days in the first place. Yeah, they’re like, No, don’t want to freaking give you that. Didn’t want to give you 30 days in a block. Don’t want to give you two days in a block. And so I’m not going to make any concession. Yeah. Over the years you’ve been practicing law. How how many times have you litigated the 30 days? Because they have one parent doesn’t want the other kid, the kid to go over there for 30 days? Well, oh, my gosh. You know what they’re doing? They won’t know this.

They don’t do that. They’re not going to do away from home for 30 days. Oh, man. Well, not. Yeah, not only that, but think about it. Like orders abound in the month of June to stop. Yeah, exactly. And when this when this possession schedule was codified in the state of Texas. Okay. This was back in the 70s, I believe it was like 76 or something like that, that they started working on this type of a possession schedule. Well, back in that time there were people took summer breaks, right? There were more like stay at home moms. That made sense. Nowadays, both parents are working and not working like, you know, only to the summer. They’re not teachers. They’re freaking working all the year. And so to take 30 days in a block of time is a practical impossibility. Most people at most get two weeks and they can’t take them all away during the summer because you want some time during the holidays. So what ends up happening? Yeah, exactly what the custodial parent, though. I mean, there is a silver lining and there’s number one, the financial, they still get child support during that month even though they have the kiddo one two, they get to designate a weekend outside of the summer possession that would effectively give them almost 21 days of time so that they get the child exclusively for 21 days. So yeah, they do try to balance it.

But I mean, the bigger problem is, is, you know, I think is nobody can really utilize that time or very few people can really utilize that time. So what ends up happening is parents have to work together or they have to figure out what we’re going to do with the child while I’m still working. If I go to the office. I mean, obviously, you know, post COVID, a lot of people are working from home, but a lot of people are back in the office. So if you’re back in the office and you’re, hey, I’ve got my kid for 30 days but don’t typically have my child for 30 days, what does that mean? Well, that means you don’t have daycare, you don’t have all the things that you typically have to have a year contract to do. Now, businesses have kind of, you know, tried to gear up for summer to make, you know, more accommodating. Yeah, yeah. More accommodating for this situation because it’s become more and more prevalent across, you know, society, not just in Texas, but it’s an extreme challenge. And so what I would just really encourage people to do is, one, read your freaking decree, like read those terms. If you don’t understand them, talk to your lawyer about them so that you can plan it out. The second thing is, is that you need to ask your lawyer when you’re getting divorced about a possession schedule, because a lot of times they can create a calendar for you.

We have all these cool new little apps and mechanisms where we can generate a possession calendar for you. And on your calendar it would say Hell fricking interred in your phone as a, you know, to do list or a, you know, a freaking task that says, hey, by March 28th, I’m going to submit to my new ex-wife or ex-husband my periods of possession that I want through the summer or by the 13th. The other thing I would say is also talk to your lawyer on the front side of this, because I don’t know how many decrees, at least 100 that I’ve done in the last couple of years that we’ve negotiated around the summer possession. We’ve split up the time, two weeks, two weeks. You know, we’ve we’ve done a number of different things where people do 5050 in the summer. They do different things because the kids are out of school, they are going to camps. A lot of a lot of the time there are going to do different things. So this is a time whenever the parents can negotiate, you know, time where you don’t have to go 30 days without seeing your kiddo, but you want to block aside enough time where if you want to take that kiddo on a vacation or take him to grandma and grandpa’s house or whatever, you can do that or have them spend time with your side of the family.

You can do that. So I’ve had any number of different types of, you know, one person gets two weeks in June, two weeks in July, two weeks in, you know, one week in June, July and August. I’ve had all kinds of different approaches for people to to work out. And this was all done on the front side before the final decree was done. I mean, the standard possession is for people that aren’t, you know, that aren’t really thinking guess, but the thing kind of sneaks up on you. Then you realize. Oh, crap. My kid’s gone for a month, so. And nobody likes it. Nobody. Nobody wants to do it. It’s where the the the non custodial parent makes up their time for not having the child as much during the school year. So. And that’s where the time is. The bulk of the time is made up, but it is a very negotiable thing. And most people will negotiate it because on the flip side, like I said, is the 21 days that, you know, the other parent won’t get to see the see the see the child. So, um, there is incentive for both sides to work together to come up with some kind of a mutually agreeable arrangement that that works for everybody. Yeah, I think that’s a huge point that you make there, Brian, which is that, you know, every order, you know what we’re talking about when we talk about this standard possession schedule, it’s the default, it’s the worst.

I think it’s the worst. And so when you look at it and you say, well, what does that mean? Well, the law is uncreative, right? The law is in a position to where it says, I don’t want to craft or create anything that’s specific to you and your family. This is the generic. You know, it’s worse than shopping off the rack. And I know Chris Christie is probably telling you like we never shop off the rockets. Those sizes don’t fit. You know, it’s like Visa and MasterCard and their percentages. We have to shove off the rack. So. Well, you know, so, I mean, I really feel like that’s that’s what, you know, the state tried to do. They tried to say, look, if you can’t work it out, if you’re going to be morons, if you really don’t want to think about what fits your lives best and reach an accord that’s customized because your lawyers will do that for you, then fine. Here’s your worst case scenario and it’s going to not fit and it’s going to be terrible and you’re not going to like it. It’s going to be itchy and scratchy and too tight around your neck and it’s going to make you look funny. But by God, you’re going to have a shirt on because you can’t figure it out for your kid. So we’re going to figure it out for you, which is a terrible position to be in.

So to your point, Brian, it’s absolutely the right thing to do is to talk to your lawyer. And if you can work it out, do custom possession schedules, do something that fits your life, your ex’s life, your children’s life, you’ll never even have to look at the freaking order. It’s so good. And a lot of people say, you know, like, we’ll tell people, hey, you know, we can craft something custom. And they’re like, We don’t even care what it says because we’re not going to follow it. We’re going to do whatever we’re going to do because it’s whatever works for our family is what we’re going to do. That’s fine. You can do that. But the cautionary tale behind that is if you can’t agree, the order will control, the order will control. And so if you think, hey, man, we’re on like the best terms and like we’re going to be great co-parents until she finds a boyfriend that you fricking hate and he hates you. And so she’s. Yeah. And she and yeah. And he’s in her ear the entire time telling her like, Hey, why do you give him that much time? He’s an asshole. You don’t need to give him that time. That time is your time. We need to have it. That jackass doesn’t eat. And then all of a sudden you’re like, What the hell? Because she’s like, We’re going to follow the order.

And you’re like, Well, we’ve never It’s human. Nature is the new spouse always has a chip on their shoulder from the ex. Always. Yeah. And so I would just tell you like a very small one. But they’re always there. They’re always there. So. Exactly. So, you know, do do yourself a favor, do your family a favor, your children a favor. Just craft something that is is creative and applicable to your family’s lifestyle and and the situation and that way. So you never look at it. You never use it. Fantastic. But it becomes an issue. You’ve got something that’s hardcore and I’m here to tell you it’s going to be enforceable. If you go down to modify a possession schedule because you don’t like the summer possession or like the fact that that you don’t like the 30 days, most most judges are going to say, too bad. So sad. That’s what the legislature says have to do. So that’s what I’m going to do. You better have a darn good reason to go into court to modify that summer possession schedule. And if you if you’ve got the schedule, you’re going to have to come up with something different. Well, my child doesn’t like it. You’re going to have to have some proof. You’re going to have to have some kind of evidence that it’s detrimental to the child, because absent that, the court is not going to entertain your notions of wanting to get rid of a 30 day possession schedule because they’re going to look at it from the standpoint of, well, hey, hey, you agreed to this on the front side.

And B, you know, you said this was best for your children on the front side. Now you’re saying it’s not. You know, I realize that, you know, children are changing and things happen, but unless you can prove it, you know, I’m not going to change it because, you know, and oftentimes it’s dad, Dad needs his time or the other parent needs their time. And they’ve got this is their time to do it. This is their time to to take and do whatever they whatever they want with the with the kiddo. And it’s it’s a thing that sticks in a lot of people’s craws. And like I said, if you if you’re going to go to court and modify that, it’s not easy to just file a modification and ask a judge to change it. You’ve got to have something. Yeah, yeah. Agree. Yeah, without a doubt. So the cautionary tale is make sure if you’re going to go into it, you’re going to probably need a child psychologist, some kind of counselor, somebody to say how it’s detrimental, not just you getting up in front of the judge and say, well, you know, he cries every night before he goes to bed or she cries every night before she goes to bed and she calls me and tells me she misses me, Whatever the case may be, that’s unfortunately not going to be enough.

And nobody’s you know, and all this is coming from a place of you love your children. I get that. But So the other parent loves the children, too. And, you know, this is the unfortunately, this is the nuts and bolts of getting a divorce. And this is where it gets gets tricky is in the summertime. Yeah, I mean, so like, you know, so. Absolutely. Read your order. Know what it is, Get your notice in, get it in early, plan it out. I know it’s a pain in the ass, but at least do your designations if that’s the order that you have and you can’t work it out. And even if you can work it out, I mean, it’s just good. It’s good form, right? I mean, co-parenting works a lot better when people can kind of plan their lives because you’re right, summer comes up on you fast and next thing you know what? Everybody wants the same damn weekend, you know? You know, So everybody’s like, Well, that’s the kid’s birthday. Or, you know, hey, that’s always, you know, you always get the 4th of July. I want the fourth freaking submit your shit early, you know what I’m saying? Like, don’t. It’s so frustrating sometimes. And I know as lawyers we get jaded, right? You know, because like, we hear this all the time, so you know in advance, I’m going to apologize to our clients who come to us, and we’re like, for for real? You want me to litigate this? I will.

I’ll spend your money however you want me to spend your money if it’s reasonable. But in this situation, a lot of times what we have to tell people is we have to give them a very difficult, hard message, which is you fucked up. You sat there and wasted time and didn’t do what you were supposed to do as parent. And now we have to go in and try to convince a judge who’s grumpy and pissed off all the time because he has to listen to this a thousand times and doesn’t like it any of those times to try to convince him that what you did, even though it was, you know, unintentional, intentional, that you didn’t do what you’re supposed to do, but we need to fix it because, you know, the other side won’t agree. It’s just it puts you in a very difficult position if you’re going to have to go to court and fight about it. So just try to avoid it. I mean, just do do what you need. Case one time where I was representing a dad and the mom came in three summers in a row and you could you could set your watch by it. She came in three summers in a row and filed a modification about the end of May to try to stop summer visitation, whether that was through a temporary order.

The first two times it was through a temporary order and she got turned down every time. She had had no basis for the suit, but she did it every year because she didn’t want those kids going over to to to this evil ogre dad’s house, even though he wasn’t really doing anything. And, you know, she just thought it better that she’d have the kids all summer and, you know, she’d try to put a stop to emergency orders, all kinds of stuff every every year for three years. And finally the judge threw her out and made her pay. And and that was that. But she stopped after that. But, you know, it was a major inconvenience. We were litigating in June, before July and, you know, trying to get a court hearing before July. You know, if you’re filing in late May. But like clockwork, every year, she come in there and file a modification, trying to shut down summer visitation. And miraculously, the suits would drop in August. In August and September. She didn’t want to fight anymore. Yeah. And, um, you know, it’s it’s it’s really, it’s bad for kids. It really is. I mean, kids do need that time with the other parent. Look, it’s. Look, it’s not a great I don’t necessarily think that it’s necessarily all that great. I mean, I’m much more in favor of a kind of a 5050 thing during the summer and stuff like that.

I mean, that’s if I had my druthers, it would be it would be that, but that is what it is right now. So unless you negotiate something different, that’s what you’re going to be stuck with. So. Yeah. Agreed. Yeah. Don’t do it. Be smart. Do what you need to plan this stuff out because you know you don’t know how you’re going to get along with that. You don’t know. You know what life’s going to be like after the war. So try to do a little bit of introspection and understand what you’re signing up for when you sign up for a long periods of summer possession. And then I also have I’ve also had cases where, um, this, this client wanted me to go in and litigate that he had to send these kids to this summer camp during his possession. These kids have to go to this summer camp. So you have to make sure that this is, you know, we get a court order that says they have to attend the summer camp. Well, the judge says no. I mean, this is his time. If he chooses to send them to the summer camp, then that’s great. You know, the kids will probably benefit by it. But, you know, if he doesn’t, then that’s that’s his thing, too. So those are the kinds of things that you really, really, really need to contemplate on the front side. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, divorce sucks.

We all know it. You know, possessions, schedules suck, so make it suck less by spending a little bit of time and energy in either doing what you need to do under the terms of the order or better yet, crafting something that makes it work for your family way better than what the legislature created. You could, you know, realize some people are at some exes are crazy, but try to do the best you can to co-parent with your with your significant ex because, um. You know, you are going to have to there is going to come a time when you’re going to have to get something out of them. They’re going to you’re going to want to go to the Taylor Swift concert, take your daughter, and it’s going to be on the wrong weekend or the wrong week. And then, you know, you’re going to need that favor and you’re going to need that. You’re going to need to trade days. So my cautionary tale is try to work with this person, take the high road as best you can, and then try to look at this stuff on the front side because it does sneak up on you if you don’t. Yes, sir. That is very valuable advice. Hopefully somebody is listening and takes it to heart. All right. So if you want to get in touch with us, we are at W-w-w-what Law office.com. That’s where Sam is. That’s where I am. Sam, you got a local number they can call you at? Sure.

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